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Picture quiz question for Chat 19 was:-.  What is it?  Coffee fans should have got this.  It is the strainer on the plunger from a cafetière . Correct answers from:- Don Eades, Malcolm Bridges, Kath Sales.   

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Chat 20 Quiz:- Here is a grand old lady. What was she doing?  Answers by email to: edgrew@virginmedia.com

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Racing Remembered

I wrote this article for Old Bike Mart, probably in 1988 or '89.  I've edited it a little and John has supplied some photographs.  Some of you may remember the late Ken Hallworth who started Old Bike Mart, really nice man.  He once bought us a pair of tyres, a bit of sponsorship that really helped our budget Manx excursions.  Eddy.
 

"Star" of the Manx

If you were one of the lads, back in the late Fifties, early Sixties, I bet you were tearing around the neighbourhood on an Arrow, Crusader, Cub or, even more likely, a BSA C15 "Star".  Lusting after a Bonnie or Goldie maybe, but it was a 250, that was usually attainable for an apprentice, even before the 250 learner limit came in. 

C15 's were thrashed around everywhere but not, it was safe to say, on that great TT Mountain Circuit across the sea, and so it remained, until last year that is (1988), when "Team Grew" crossed over to the magic Isle and (almost) shattered all previous opinions about the humble "Ceefa ". 

Getting something competitive to ride in the VMCC Racing Section 's 250 Class began to get difficult, as interest in the class increased and the few MOV Velo's and Rudges about were soon out of reach.  Why not try a C15 thought amateur tuner Jeff Wallis?  The earliest distributor models just fell into the Section's 1958 cut-off date and spares from the trade or Small Ads were plentiful; a quick look through OBM every month, tells anyone that.   So, Jeff went ahead and built one and who better to ride it than former workmate John Grew, who Jeff had seen wrestling many times with the only flat-tank Sunbeam 500, still competing effectively around the tracks.  A season's improvements soon had the C15 finishing regularly in the first six, beaten only by the stroker brigade and the consistently fast Stratford Rudge. 

Then, a chance to ride in the 1988 Classic Manx came John's way on Tony Regan's Triumph Metisse and with it a great opportunity to get the little Beesa over as well and enter for the Classic Junior 250 lightweight class.  Was it good enough to qualify though?  There were plenty of sceptics at the first scrutineering session but as the week passed, the friendly efficient scrutineers began to ask, "when's he going out on the C15 again ", as it became evident that the team meant business!  

The first major hurdle for all MGP competitors is to qualify, that meant lapping in 30 minutes or under.   Now you don't have to be Einstein to work out that to do this on the 37.75 miles course, the average lap speed had to be greater than the C15's original top speed. Some extra speed had to be extracted from somewhere.  Did they do it?  No problem, Jeff's careful assembly of basically readily available parts and running on petrol with no radical tuning, saw the bike go round in 29 minutes 45.2 seconds,76.09mph in Friday evening practice.  The team was over the moon and to misquote moon man Neil Armstrong "A slow circuit for a Manx - a giant lap for a C15".


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Start on Glencrutchery Road

C15 Kirkmichael
Kirkmichael - Note just a little fresh air under the front wheel
 

It wasn't to be a happy ending though for this BSA fairy-tale.   In the race the motor was spinning beautifully, and John began to think in terms of a finish.

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Waterworks
 

It was not to be however, for on the very last lap, approaching Ballaugh, a tuppenny ha'penny circlip holding the gudgeon pin, gave up the fight and by Quarry Bends, the growing trail of exhaust smoke signaled an end to a valiant effort.


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Smoke trail spells the end

A Finishers Medal on the Triumph in the Senior Classic helped to ease the disappointment somewhat and the C15 had at least added a little variety to the great races and been the source of many a bar room tale.  Eddy

  


Another of John Goodall's engines, one of his favourites.

This is a circa 1918 Gnome Rhone Monosoupape Rotary scale engine of a typical first World War typical aero engine. In rotary engines the crank shaft on which the engine is mounted to the airframe is stationary and the rest of the engine rotates around the crank shaft. Basically opposite to a radial engine where the engine is stationary and the shaft rotates as in most other engines. It is nine cylinders each of 10cc making 99cc altogether. The inlet is from the crank case through a valve in the top of the piston and exhaust is via the overhead valve straight into the atmosphere. The model engine has a working oil pump and a dummy magneto which is used for its points to fire the home made spark plugs via a slip ring distributer at the rear of the engine. Commercial plugs are not available this small. The spur gear drive for oil pump and magneto are at the rear of the cylinders. The engine measures 8 ½ inches diameter and 10 inches long.

 

It is interesting to note that the heavy mass of the rotating engine caused the aeroplane to corkscrew when pulled up into a loop due to gyroscopic effects. This caused a problem when shooting at German planes because their engines rotated in the opposite direction and so their corkscrew effect in combat was opposite to French and British machines. It is a wonder any got shot down at all? I think more were probably lost due to engine, or machine failures than the enemy. One of the other problems with rotary engines is that an explosive mixture was drawn into the crank case and this sometimes exploded if a stray spark or overheated engine part caused ignition??

 


A Book Review from Dana Neal ����

I bought a copy of Ivan Rhodes book "Passion of a lifetime".
Whilst I know who Ivan is, I have never met him or spoken to him, nor have any connection to him or his family.
It is a fantastic publication, packed with information and photographs detailing the Veloce concern, the personalities within that company and of course the wonderful bikes made by that company, both road going and competition.
An absolute pleasure to read and it must have taken Mr. Rhodes so much work to produce it.
Well worth the purchase price in my opinion.  Dan


John Grew's, I’m pickin’ up good vibrations – part 3.

I was now on the hunt for G15 Matchless parts and I was starting from scratch. We all probably know that building an old bike from bits is more problematic and usually more expensive, but my reasoning to take this route was that I had the intension of modifying many of the engine and transmission components. Collecting the parts took a fair while, but his gave me time to undertake more research on Irving’s theory of using a phased crank in a parallel twin engine.

I will try to explain a little about the theory, but will also try not to get you bogged down with too much physics. I am no expert, and if you want to know more, Youtube will provide you with lots of explanations.

Irving actually worked out that a 72 degree crank stagger would be beneficial. As a snapshot, when one piston is at TDC the downward motion piston is travelling at maximum speed, e.g. “yanking” the TDC piston away from the cylinder head. (See right hand column below)

I don’t know if Irving had the chance to prove his theory in metal at the time, but later on, Ron Valentine (of Wesslake racing engine fame), with the assistance of mathematician Tom Oliver certainly did. He also had a hunch that a 90 degree stagger would be even more beneficial. (See left hand column above)

With a 360 degree crank in a 2 cylinder parallel twin engine, at TDC both pistons are actually stationary (“for a split second”) and begin to move downwards at the same time (The same scenario in a single cylinder engine). At that time the flywheel inertia of the rotating crank assembly transfers kinetic energy to the pistons to get the pistons moving and that transfer direction happens until the crank is at about 90 degrees from TDC. After 90 degrees from TDC, the pistons begin slowing down and their kinetic energy in slowing down is given back to the crankshaft. Remember energy cannot be created or destroyed, just transferred. The same transfers of kinetic energy happen again from the next piston stop at BDC. In theory, if you had a very, very long con rod and no flywheel, which would be difficult, the pistons would stop at TDC and not move again.

With a 270 degree parallel twin, beginning with one piston at TDC and the other at 90 degrees of crank rotation ahead, the second piston is about halfway through its stroke and is in motion. The first piston will begin to move downward while the second is being slowed as it approaches BDC. The first piston is absorbing kinetic energy from the second piston that is giving up kinetic energy. This exchange of kinetic energy between the two pistons is constant so you get a “smooth” transfer, one to the other, through the entire revolution. Less flywheel effect is needed and that permits a lighter crankshaft which enhances acceleration.

Reciprocating engines are liable to produce primary and secondary vibration. This can be quite complicated to understand, so in layman’s terms; primary vibration is the sort of “thumping” vibration and secondary is the tingly stuff. A typical 360 crank engine will produce both. However, there is no secondary vibration with a 270 degree crank so you don’t get the high frequency “tingles”.

The parts started to pile up and I had acquired a 750 Commando crankshaft. I also discovered that Norton had experimented with an electric start much earlier than many people realised. Remember the Ducati salesman couldn’t turn my Commando engine over with the kickstart when I part exchanged the Norton and the factory knew there was a problem.

As I sifted through many crankcases, I found that some Commando timing side cases not only had the usual boss to mount the timing chain tensioner, but also had a similar boss cast-in that would provide a tensioner for an electric start chain. The electric starter would be fitted in the space vacated by the magneto that was now redundant with coil ignition fitted. The story goes that they tried to make it all work without any sort of “backfire proof” sprag clutch and the first kick back destroyed the whole lot. However, that boss got me thinking about fitting a balancer shaft in the future to reduce the primary vibration remembering that, in theory, the secondary vibes would be missing.

The Commando was eventually fitted with an electric start on the MK3 that operated via the primary cases with a sprag clutch. Remember when the British police motorcyclists were supplied with Norton Commandos? I spotted one of the first MK3’s and stopped on my Matchless to ask if it worked. The policeman laughed and then demonstrated the starting technique. This involved him kicking over the engine whilst pushing on the starter button at the same time! It was marginal to say the least.

Current MK3 Commando owners can now thankfully upgrade to a successful solution.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so hopefully these photographs of the new 90 degree offset crank will be enlightening. You will observe that the original crank had a huge flywheel that acted as a “spacer” for the two crank “cheeks”. My new spacer is simply that, a spacer. This new spacer-flywheel is actually 1,900 grams lighter than the original, that’s nearly two large bags of sugar. Remember that on my new crank, one piston will “yank” the other from TDC, and so on, so a much lighter flywheel is sufficient.

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                                    Original Crank                                                          Heavy old flywheel                         

The flywheel needed eccentric scallops on the periphery to clear the piston skirts at BDC on this long stroke engine and as usual the whole job wasn’t as easy as it might appear.  The two halves of the assembly were balanced individually on knife edges.  (Pictures below.)

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ou have probably heard about “balance factors”; quite a science in its own right, so I won’t dwell on it. However, the consensus was that a 50% balance factor would be good. I seem to remember that inn Irvingg’s ‘Tuning for Speed’ book he recollects that when the Velocette factory mounted a nice smooth single into a different type of frame the vibration was terrible. They had to rebalance the flywheels to suit the new frame that had a different “resonant frequency”. It’s a bit like black magic really!!

So now I had my new crank. Other modifications included changing the oiling to pressure side filtration. Using a MK3 timing chest cover not only facilitated an easy change to electronic ignition, but also provided a better anti sumpingystem. A belt primary drive was fitted together with a ‘dry’ Commando diaphragm clutch. I opted for a single system. A belt primary drive was fitted together with a ‘dry’ Commando diaphragm clutch. I opted for a single carburettor for simplicity and purchased a nice new 34mm Mikuni; more about this mod later.

The new offset crank would require two more very necessary modifications. The camshaft would need “retiming” by moving one pair of cam lobes, to be twisted at 45 degrees (not 90 degrees) to the other pair. Take note that a four stroke camshaft spins at half crank speed. All I did was saw the camshaft in half! It was more sophisticated than that. A register was machined on the centre of the shaft between the pairs of lobes. A sleeve was then machined to fit this diameter “post hacksaw”. A jig was made to hold the severed halves at 45 degrees to one another as the whole lot was carefully welded together. The sleeve was also pinned for extra security. It worked!

A Boyer electronic ignition rotor, again modified to 45 degrees, was utilised that gave “wasted sparks” at certain crankshaft positions, but this also worked well.

I made modifications to the frame and ancillary parts that I won’t go into here and eventually I had my “wobbly cranked” Matchless.

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So how did it turn out? As I’ve said before, it feels like a “V-twin single”.  It has the thump of a single, but no tingles of a vertical twin. It sounds like a Ducati 90 degree V twin, which I like. The new Mikuni gave a regular tick over with the engine having a nice lilt, but as mentioned earlier this single Mikuni led to a mystery.  John Grew ..... To be continued

What is that mystery, how was it diagnosed and what was the cure?  Find out next time in Chat 21.  Eddy


For you technical types, John has included below a bit of an explanation of causes of vibration in various engine configurations. Eddy

Explanation of gif files.

Here are 4 different twin engine animated pictures. Primary vibration is shown as a BLUE arrow and secondary vibration as a RED arrow. The relative size of the arrow indicates the magnitude of the vibration and how it ebbs and flows as the crank rotates.

The parallel twin belowshowssa large BLUE primary and a smaller RED secondary. Note how the smaller RED arrow is flashing twice as fast as the BLUE but with less intensity, a large BLUE primary and a smaller RED secondary. Note how the smaller a large BLUE primary and a smaller RED secondary. Note how the smaller RED arrow is flashing twice as fast as the BLUE but with less intensity.

 Thee 270 crankk has no RED arrows so higher frequency vibes are missing..

 

As a comparison the Ducati 90 V  indicates the BLUE primary as constant, meaning perfect primary vibe reduction in theory in the form of a circle. There is a smaller RED secondary at twice crank speed.

 

Now look at the BMW flat twin. Here we see no arrows. With an opposed piston boxer engine one piston mirrors the other to cancel out BLUE and RED vibes. BMW boxer engines are smooth, but not perfectly smooth because the crank journals need to be staggered, which is why BMW and Moto Guzzi cylinders are “out of line” looking from above. This creates a small ‘rocking couple – a bit like a ‘seesaw’ vibe. (not shown here) The only way to eliminate this is by having ‘knife and fork’ con rods like in a Harley Davidson; difficult with white metal big ends.

 



Dana Neal sent me this:-

My late Mum's cousin, Peter Brown who is 97 is a VMCC member.  He was a dispatch rider in the war with the RAF,

He was based at one point in the New Forest, so I forwarded Pat Robotham's reminiscences about his youth to Peter's daughter down in Guildford in the last Chat (I hope that is ok, he is a VMCC member?)
He was delighted to read it and had several comments about the mists in the hollows and the New Forest ponies, both of which were apparently a complete menace on blackout lit motorcycles.  Dan  

Nice to hear about people enjoying our chats.  Eddy

Pat Robotham's Motorcycling Memories Part Two.

Eventually we bought an 18th century Malvern stone cottage in West Malvern, the first house we had ever owned, quite cheap and no more rent to pay and I had a workshop in the back scullery, the only downside being wheeling the bike through the main kitchen to get there. The house was down a seriously unmade pebble strewn cul-de-sac with a one in five slope on it. Which made setting off for work and returning quite interesting and probably encouraged my later interest in trials riding.

We both went out for rides together through the Malverns, me on the trusty 6T and Shelley on the newly rebuilt Royal Enfield model G. With no more rebuilding to do I wanted another project and spotted a 1929 model F Ariel for sale in exchange and Mart for £100 just down the road in Ledbury.  I bought it, it was nearly complete missing a front mudguard and cylinder head and exhausts, so it went into the workshop while I decided how to tackle a really old bike. That was my introduction to vintage bikes, I still have it and it is my go to bike for reliable two up vintage riding.  It does not have a speedo but considering I have owned it for nearly fifty years and have used it for commuting and motorway travel I reckon I must have done seventy thousand miles on it, in both solo and sidecar trim. I have personally rebuilt it three times, but once was after a bad accident.  I joined the VMCC and the AOMCC soon after buying it and the rest as they say is history.

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Royal Enfield model G

Some weeks after buying the Ariel Shell and I walked into our local pub, the Brewers Arms for a late night drink.  As we had entered I noticed a rather battered BSA M20 leaning against the pub wall in full military trim and loaded to the gunnels.  We got our drinks and went to sit down near to a man in a dark corner wearing a large riding coat and with a pudding basin helmet on the table.  I assumed he owned the M20, and asked him about it.  “I am coming back from work, I live down the Purlieu.  Just popped in for a rum and orange."  I thought it was a bit late for leaving work, “where do you work, are you on the late shift?”  No I work in Tripoli for Save the Children and have just ridden home.” So started my thirty year friendship with one of the most extraordinary people I have ever met, Peter Ward.  One of the very early members of the VMCC, who a year previously had ridden non stop from Lands End to John o' Groats on a 1911 Edwell single speed motor cycle, using A roads and the odd motorway section on Acetylene lights. He completed the trip in about 19 hours.

Shelley didn’t like the Enfield as it was too heavy, so it got sold to a dealer in Worcester.  I decided I wanted a change and sold the 6T, and with the money from both I went for something completely different, an S8 Sunbeam.  Not a good choice, ponderous in performance and handling, and complex to keep running correctly.  I kept it only for about four months.  By this time it was 1978 and I had got the Ariel on the road, my first event in the VMCC was the International Assembly held at Cheltenham race course, Shelley and I went with the bike, I rode it over and she went in Peters van.  About four miles out from home the bike tightened up and came to a grinding halt.  Peter pulled up and walked up to the bike, I described what happened and he felt the engine and gearbox with his hand.  “What is in the gearbox?”  “Grease” as it says on the top.”  “Never put only grease in one of these grease gearboxes, always add about 25% oil, it does not matter if it comes out.”

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1929 model F Ariel

Lesson learnt it has never seized again although it does have lubricant on the outside after a decent run.

The VMCC Internationals were held until about 20 years ago either at Harrogate, Cheltenham and later at Beverley.  They were time trials of about 100 miles and very popular.  Always having a good overseas contingent who all took it very seriously.  Over the years the number of people wanting such events declined as did people prepared to organise them so they stopped.  A shame in my view but a reflection of the way the club changed.  The only similar event left is the West Kent International, which I have done a couple of times, but it always seems that the roads around there are too crowded for my liking.

Following a disappointing few months with the S8, I noticed a very odd machine in the window of the dealers in Worcester to whom I had sold the RE.  This was a motorcycle made in Denmark, by the Fisk Nielsen vacuum cleaner company called a Nimbus, an ohc inline four in a riveted spring steel frame with shaft drive.  Made in about 1939.  What was not to like?  So I did a deal with the S8 and brought it home.  Trouble was it had been bought into the country by a Danish VMCC member at the previous International and swapped for a British bike, so it had no papers or reg number.  It also had no proof of import so it cost me an extra 10% import tax just to get it registered.  However it was a really nice machine, smooth good handling and performance but a bit under geared as it had a sidecar ratio final drive. Still I rode it a fair bit, and still had the Ariel for safekeeping.

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Nimbus

We also helped Peter ward out on his autojumble stall, he had been doing these for as long as anyone could remember and had a reputation for finding unusual items to sell.  If you mix with dealers you end up dealing so over a few months a number of bikes passed through my hands.  If I liked them I kept them and rode them if not I passed them on.  Ones I remember were a very original D1Bantam which I manged to break my big toe on by hitting the fixed footrest when kickstarting, lesson, don’t use slippers to kiskstart a motorcycle even a 125 two stroke. An Ariel colt 200 cc from about 1954, pretty gutless and unmemorable. I also bought a kit of parts for a 1939 square four, on the misguided basis that if you are into Ariels you had to have a Square Four. How wrong you can be.

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Ariel Square 4

By the end  of the year, 1979 I had had to get another job because the contract money had finished, so we moved up to Derby, and I commuted on the Nimbus until I ran the big ends. I stripped the bike in the shed of my digs in Etwall and a real old fashioned motor engineering firm called Cotterals in Derby  remetaled the con rods and caps, and ground the crank.  Making a superb job even though the guy who did it all had to be brought out of retirement because no one else had done anything like this for such a long time.

We bought a house in Mickleover with a big garage that leaked badly and our first son appeared so all things changed again. I also took up trials riding. Pat

To be continued:-


Geek Alert! - Computer Tip:-

Finding something specific in web page can be frustrating, especially if it is a long page. There is an easy way to perform an in-page search. It should work on almost any keyboard.

  1. To search quickly within a web page (“Find In Page”), first open the page you’d like to search in your favorite web browser.
  2. Press Ctrll+F F (on Windows PC, Chromebook, or Linux system), or Commandd+F F (on a Mac) on the keyboard. The “F” stands for “Find,” and it should work in every browser.

If you’re using Mozilla Firefox, a search bar will appear in the lower-left corner of the window.
If you’re using Google Chrome, a search bubble will appear in the upper-right corner of the window.
If you’re using Microsoft Edge, a search bar will appear in thepear in the upper-left corner of the window.
If you’re using Apple Safari on Mac, a search bar will appear in the upper-right corner of the window.

Below is what it looks like in Firefox.  I'm looking for Eddy, give it a try on this page.

It should also work in many applications too, e.g. Word Notepad, etc. Eddy


There's been quite a bit of technical stuff in this issue so here is something a bit lighter to finish.  It has done "the rounds" many times but it always makes mee laugh when I read it.  (Probably because I recognise it from personal experience. ����)  Eddy


DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted project which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh shit!'

DROP SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of blood-blisters.

BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle... It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting on fire various flammable objects in your shop. Also handy for igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race.

TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper.

BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to cut good aluminium sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out Phillips screw heads.

STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50p part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

UTILITY KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in use.

ADJUSTABLE WRENCH: aka "Another hammer", aka "the Swedish Nut Lathe", aka "Crescent Wrench".  Commonly used as a one size fits all wrench, usually results in rounding off nut heads before the use of pliers.  Will randomly adjust size between bolts, resulting in busted buckles, curse words, and multiple threats to any inanimate objects within the immediate vicinity.

SON OF A BITCH TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling 'SON OF A BITCH!' at the top of your lungs. It is also, most often, the next tool that you will need.

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